If I Was Thinking of Joining a New Methodist Denomination….

With the announcement of the delay of General Conference and the launch of the new Global Methodist Church, here are a few questions I raised in a Monday Memo in 2021 which still seem applicable today. If I was thinking of leaving the UMC to join the GMC, I might ask…

1. How many churches will actually make the move?

The answer is “No one knows”. The WCA is projecting about 3,000-5,000 congregations out of 30,000 in the USA. They estimate that 95% will have less than 500 members.

Likewise, in Michigan no one knows for sure. The WCA website identifies 29 “WCA-friendly” churches in the state and based on informal conversations, I’d guess about 100+ out of 830 UM churches might choose to join. For the most part, they are typical UM churches with 250 members or less. If anyone has better numbers I would welcome them, but if these guesses are at all representative of the nation it makes for a fairly small denomination of medium and small membership churches with some large churches mostly in Texas and the south.

2. So the question for clergy is, “What are my opportunities for ministry?”

If I was early in my career, I’d be wondering where I might be able to serve. Since the WCA plans to do away with guaranteed appointment, will I be able to find settings for a life-long ministry? Will I have to search across the country, rather than in a geographical conference? With a weakened role for Bishops in appointment-making, women and ethnic minority clergy need to wonder about their futures in a theologically conservative, predominately white denomination.

3. And for local churches, “Will there be clergy to serve our congregation?”

UM congregations have always depended on the appointment system for trained, conference-approved pastoral leadership. Without the guarantee of appointment for clergy, there can be no guarantee of pastors for congregations. Will small rural circuits and churches in under-served communities be able to attract pastors without the power of episcopal appointment to make sure they are served? When an opening exists, the WCA proposes that a congregation will interview four candidates, one of which must be ethnic minority. Where will those candidates come from?

3. Which leads to a larger question, “What will an Annual Conference look like?

If there are only 100 churches in Michigan, perhaps the conference will be all of the Midwestern states. What about Bishops, conference staff, medical/health coverage, mission outreach, equitable salary support, clergy training and supervision, camping programs–all the things we have come to expect from an annual conference? Or will the conference be little more than a loose collection of local churches scattered across a large geographic area? For clergy, what will conference membership actually mean?

4. The WCA envisions broader evangelism, growing existing churches and planting new ones.

But in Michigan, many of our churches have been declining or plateauing for years despite intensive programs for congregational renewal. Will being part of a smaller denomination change these local realities? Who will do the hard work of planting new churches?

4. And then of course, “Who will pay for it?

The WCA promises lower apportionments but even modest denominational leadership cost money. Currently the weight of general church and annual conference budgets falls disproportionately on large membership churches, one of which contributes significantly more dollars than the combined support from many small churches. Who will pay for operating a new denomination, planting new churches, reaching young adults, serving the poor and supporting ethnic minority ministries, all of which the WCA envisions for its future?

5. The even larger question is, “What about Africa and the rest of the world?

The WCA is committed to a broad global vision, but global ministry is expensive. The UM Churches in the USA invest millions of dollars every year in support of the Central Conferences, paying up to 90% of their expenses. In a smaller denomination with lower local church apportionments, where will those mission dollars come from?

6. And at a personal level, how will it feel to be part of a “like-minded, traditional, orthodox” denomination?

UM clergy and congregations, whether conservative, liberal or somewhere in-between, enjoy a freedom that comes with a broadly inclusive church. Though I may agree with the WCA on some positions, do I want to join a denomination which requires a commitment to “traditional, orthodox doctrine and discipline”? Even if I am conservative, will I really be at home in a denomination where everyone is supposed to be “like-minded”?

Until now, it has been relatively easy to view this matter primarily in terms of the political or theological issues like homosexuality. However, at some point, the tough, practical questions come to bear. I assume the WCA Transitional Leadership Team (which remains incognito) will address these questions and perhaps some of my friends who are part of the WCA can offer a response. I’d welcome that.

But if I was thinking of joining a new Methodist denomination, these are some of the questions I would ask.

23 thoughts on “If I Was Thinking of Joining a New Methodist Denomination….

  1. J.Dwight Cartner

    Why would I or anyone else want to join a new non UMC? why not work dilligently to make what you have better,rather than create more problems for yourself and others. Nothing at all is accomplished when you run away.

  2. cliffb48071

    Right now I have just received my Covid-19 shots, the church has not been able to have meetings and the government is deciding when and by what number I can participate here or anywhere, so why would I want to even thing about change.  Besides my daughter’s and wife’s ashes are buried in the front yard of the church.  I am staying where I, as I cannot pickup their ashes and leave with them, and all of the footprints in investment of time, money and energy I have put into my church, make it home to me and I can accept change. Cliff

  3. Diana Brasher

    Very thorough and thought-provoking. My husband and I are older members, but we want to belong to a Bible studying, Jesus loving, prayer and mission oriented, inclusive body of believers. Our church is very small, but with work and love, open minds, arms, and hearts we can spread the good news of God’s Grace and seekers will want to be a part of the miracle of a body of Christians like ours.

  4. Betty Beck

    Why would I even think of a new denomination?! I will accept change and know that the Lord is with me in the midst of it all.

  5. Betty Beck

    Why would I even think of a new denomination?! I will accept change and know that the Lord is with me in the midst of it all.

  6. Bruce Ogilvie

    Having ‘lived through’ the spectacular divisions of the Episcopal Church, USA and the current issues with the Anglican Communion my perspective is some what bias. Generally, philosophical and theological schisms are fraught with hyperbole and less substantial substance, or in the modern vernacular – more smoke and light than combustible materials – and the age old issue of abortion rights falls into that category. It is my belief that love of self and love of others meets it hardest junction in this … I don’t believe it is in God’s plan that we make this decision or judgement for others. We may confront it for ourselves. The Episcopal Church almost broke itself on the issue, and they turned around and struggled with LBQT (etal) in the 1980’s. All of these and many other issues are raised and disposed of when, as Presiding Bishop Michael Curry says in his book, through love of the other and following the great commandment – Love the Lord, your God, with all your heart and mind, not to mention our entire lives.

  7. Terri Bentley

    Thank you Jack for raising valid questions. I have been a UM since I was 16. I dedicated my life to serving and am not planning on leaving. I pray we come out of this stronger and more committed to doing the work of Jesus.

  8. Rev. Sherry Foster, Deacon

    Thank you Jack for your thoughts. There is a lot to think about as decisions are made and we as clergy need to look at the whole spectrum and consider the realities of possible paths.
    As an ordained deacon, I would like to add that there have been very few statements or theories about whether or not our order would even exist in any or some of the denominations. As deacons meet this Spring, I hope there will be ideas to move forward, fully understand and use the unique deacon ministries and creativity to minister to the world in partnership with elders.
    God bless you!

  9. Favorite Son

    If We Think about Separating to the new progressive Methodist Church …
    1. Will the number of churches, however many, lull us into thinking we’re exempt from historic membership decline?
    2. Will the guaranteed appointment of clergy further elicit a sense of entitlement and general lethargy?
    3. Will our churches receive nominally-committed clergy who have lost their passion for knowing Christ and making Him known?
    4. Will continued membership decline cause our conference to shrink or have to endure awkward mergers with adjacent, declining progressive conferences?
    5. Will our reduction in size as a conference result in massive fiscal austerity measures?
    6. Will our abhorrence for African Methodists’ traditional apostolic views cause us to lose our fervor for global missions and reveal our hidden racism?
    7. Will progressive clergy and laity solidify around transient worldly values rather that expand around biblical hallmarks?

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  12. Susan Haller

    I’m in agreement with what you did write, but I am sorry to see that you didn’t address the order of deacons at all. The deacon order is significantly altered in any alternative denominational plans and (though we are not currently guaranteed an appointment), these changes greatly impact our appointment options as well.

    1. Jack Harnish

      You are correct. I didn’t address the Deacon because I was writing from my point of view as an Elder and a local church pastor. You are correct, the new orders of the WCA/GMC would almost immediately end the distinct Order of Deacons and return to the old model of the transitional deacon. Having worked to bring the Order of Deacons to life while I was at GBHEM, I see that as a major weakness of their plan.


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